Young Bosnians’ Rebellion resembled the Punk Rebellion

Young Bosnians’ Rebellion Resembled the Punk Rebellion

“I wish the production of The Dragonslayers inspired among the audience a sense of admiration towards a young man sacrificing himself for the good of others.”

Interview with Iva Milošević, director

By Borka G. Trebjesanin 

On Yugoslav Drama Theatre’s Ljuba Tadic Stage in Belgrade, director Iva Milošević is in the midst of staging the latest play by Milena Markovic “The Dragonslayers”, a play that artistically addresses the Sarajevo Assassination, Gavrilo Princip, and the Young Bosnians. The set is designed by Gorcin Stojanović, the costumes by Maja Mirković, and the music is composed and performed by Vladimir Pejković. YDT is going to realise the production of “The Dragonslayers” as a part of the project of the Union of European Theatres marking the centenary of the beginning of World War One. The premiere is scheduled for 7 June.

The cast includes Nikola Rakocević, Mirjana Karanović, Milan Marić, Radovan Vujović, Dubravka Kovjanić, Jovana Gavrilović and Srdjan Timarov.

B.T: The Young Bosnians believed life to be a work of art, they loved mankind intensely, even while despising it. What were the thoughts you had after reading “The Dragonslayers”?

Iva Milošević: Their rebellion reminded me of the youth rebellion of 1968 and of punk rebellion of the late 1970s. Both were primarily rebellions of the heart. That’s what the Young Bosnian’s revolt was too.

B.T.:Which of your personal experiences have you recognised in the play “The Dragonslayers”, or rather, what are the reasons as to why you’d like to see this play in a theatre?

Iva Milošević: I was shaken by the vast sorrow and anger which drove these high school seniors to revolt, to oppose this ‘dragon’ that endangers their dignity, their freedom, and puts them in a slave-like position. This ‘dragon’ they fight is not only personified by the tyrannical figure of the Austro-Hungarian heir to the throne, but also by all those who consent to injustice with their heads bowed down, be it for lack of courage or for personal gain. When one reads the play by Milena Markovic, one faces the fact that the freedom-loving spirit is an indestructible category that, every now and again, throughout history, raises individuals above the numbness and indifference of the many.

B.T.: We ourselves live in curious times, in a way reminiscent of the period when Gavrilo Princip and the Young Bosnians themselves lived. Who are Milena Markovic’s dragonslayers really?

Iva Milošević: They are young rebels, intellectuals, enraptured freedom fighters, idealists who come from great poverty and misery. They strive for complete emancipation, both for their need to affirm themselves as dignified human beings and for desperation stemming from their sense of having no future.

B.T.: The story of the Young Bosnians is also a story of freedom, social justice, anarchism. Why is the play about Princip so ‘hot’ in this day and age?

Iva Milosević: I think the reason for it lies in the fact that the petit bourgeois spirit and authoritarian character, the axis of today’s world, find any resistance actively opposing the limitation of individual liberties hard to digest. Particularly great scepticism and cynicism is stirred when this opposition involves self-sacrifice and empathy towards the imperilled.

B.T.: In your previous productions you examined how one gets to violence. Why it happens, where its origins are. What were the conclusions you reached in this step as a director?

Iva Milošević: The answer is simple. When someone is bending your spine to the ground, there are two options: either your backbone snaps, or you defend yourself.

B.T.: “The Dragonslayers” contain poetry and rhetoric and classical dramatic dialogue. How do you make all of this unified on stage? What are the heroes we are going to see like, considering the fact that Milena Markovic raised this tale to a mythic level?

Iva Milošević: It’s going to be a poetic show and I believe at times it will indeed work as a specific ‘heroic cabaret’ in its own right. It is going to be about the soul’s journey from righteous anger to heroic act, and paying the price for such life choices.

B.T.: What level of excitement accompanies your daily rehearsals of this play at YDT?

Iva Milošević: I am incredibly glad to direct this play and to have the very cast that I have. I feel a great sense of responsibility because we speak of young people who really existed, and because I am aware of the fact that amongst the audience there will be young people who came to see the play in search of answers to many important questions, such as the question of what it’s worth fighting for, but also the question of the price of the sacrifice for the general good.

B.T.: The story of the Young Bosnians has a tumultuous historical background. How do you view the different historical interpretations of the Sarajevo assassination and the Young Bosnians?

Iva Milošević: Revolt has always been and always will be a subversive topic. By this very fact it is subject to all manner of relativisation, politisation, appropriation etc.

B.T.: Have “The Dragonslayers” changed you and if yes, how?

Iva Milošević: Thanks to this play I got informed in more detail about the era and the Young Bosnia movement, of which, I admit, I had known very little.

B.T.: Who would you particularly like to see in the audience and why? What emotions would you like to convey through the play “The Dragonslayers”?

Iva Milošević: I’d be glad if the show attracts younger audiences, but I don’t see this as its most important task. I’d like it to inspire a sense of admiration for a young person sacrificing themselves for the good of others.

Interview with Iva Milošević by Borka G. Trebjesanin. Published in Politika, 3 June 2014.
Translated from Serbian into English by Marija Stojanovic. 

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Published on 2 December 2015

A Sorrow that weights a Ton

A SORROW THAT WEIGHS A TON

Interview with Iva Milošević, director of ‘The Dragonslayers’

The Dragonslayers © Aleksandar Angelovski
The Dragonslayers © Aleksandar Angelovski
By Jelena Kovacević. Translated from Serbian into English by Marija Stojanović.

J.K.: A hundred years have passed since Princip’s assassination of the Archduke Ferdinand. What was crucial in your decision to stage Milena’s play The Dragonslayers, addressing the Young Bosnians and Gavrilo Princip?

I.M.: The crucial thing about this play is that it glorifies freedom-loving spirit. Milena starts from the assumption that her heroes were fighters for freedom who sacrificed themselves in a profound and sincere faith for the wellbeing of others. From today’s safe distance, one can think of the Sarajevo Assassination in many different ways, but ultimately it boils down to the fact that it was an act of revolt against oppression, injustice, occupation. And how do we view revolt nowadays? Not in public, but deep inside? This is the question raised by this show. So, the already worn out sentence, ‘fallen for freedom’, this is really true in this case. How do we view this today? Is it possible, from the perspective of today’s world and the spirit of these times, to speak about the freedom-loving spirit as an ideal not only contained in myths? When I started to think about this play, I remembered loving the song ‘Freedom’ by the band Azra. At that age, the chorus of the song meant a lot to me. It says: “Freedom is a woman. Take it”. What a simple and accurate definition. Freedom is not complicated. It is a matter of instinct, courage, desire, daring. Freedom is a challenge, a risk, but also a matter of self-recognition, self-validation. Cioran would say: “a war not only against the world, but also against one’s own fatigue of the world.” The production deals with contemporary relations, questioning what heroism would be nowadays, it deals with desire, fervour, anti-bourgeois and non-conformist meaning — the freedom-loving spirit, and all that through poetry. And, as Mirko Kovac puts it, “poetry is an illusion, and an illusion is not to be interpreted, but chased before the images take form.”

J.K.: The Dragonslayers is not a historical play. Where do you perceive its truth to be?

I.M.: The truth of this play is in the question of where the spirit of freedom is today. What happened to it? Is the spirit of freedom endangered nowadays? Murder is not its subject, it’s merely a dramatic circumstance, a historical fact. But the disgust, the sons’ rebellion against the fathers, what Peter Sloterdijk deals with in his book Rage and Time, this feeling of profound radical essential injustice of the world — these were the subjects we addressed.

J.K.: Characters in The Dragonslayers are not fixed. As far as the cast is concerned, how different is this rehearsal process from the usual studying of the script?

I.M.: It’s very different. A lot of talks, exercises, improvisation, sideline inspiration.

J.K.: Your work so far proves that you readily and gladly decide to stage your contemporaries. Do you collaborate with Milena?

I.M.: We respect the playtext. We respect the dramatic structure. I talk to Milena, but she does not sit in rehearsals.

J.K.: You like to work with ‘your team’. But this time it could be said that you work with the young forces of Yugoslav Drama Theatre. What qualities did your work gain with it?

I.M.: Sadness of a young person is the saddest. On stage, their emotions are exciting in a special sort of way because they are raw, devoid of layers of experience, thinking things out, analysis, self-irony. Discontent with the world, anger at what keeps missing is an intense feeling, a simple one. And it weighs a ton.

 

The interview was created and first published in the programme for the YDT’s production ‘The Dragonslayers’,
7 June 2014, Beograd, Jugoslovensko dramsko pozorište, 2014.

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Published on 30 November 2015

The Dragonslayers

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The Dragonslayers

Written by Milena Marković
Directed by Iva Milošević

Photo by Aleksandar Angelovski |by courtesy of the Yugoslav Drama Theatre Belgrade
Photos by Aleksandar Angelovski | by courtesy of the Yugoslav Drama Theatre Belgrade

The Dragonslayers is an ironic historic lesson, it tells the story of the assassination of the archduke Franz Ferdinand using bustling poetic language to express the demand for freedom. It is not a historical play, but a contemporary piece which examines the position of a young man and his need to express the desire – to be free.

Milena Marković’s The Dragonslayers is dedicated to Gavrilo Princip and the Mlada Bosna movement (Young Bosnia – a political movement who pleaded for the people’s emancipation from the Habsburg Empire). A seventeen-year-old-boy with a gun, a would-be poet whose name represents a historical symbol and a frequent subject of dispute, is presented as the protagonist of this new work by Milena Marković, a poet and a dramaturg whose work is about constantly breaking down prejudices.
The piece is written as a “heroic cabaret”, in a form of an ironic history lesson, and tells the known story of the assassination using bustling poetic language to express the key demand – the demand for freedom. Historical figures are brought to the stage, the conspirators, Young Bosnians, together with the world of ordinary people and their different understanding of the event and its essential meaning. Different characters and situations are built by eight actors that play a few dozens of characters in a few dozen situations.

Milena Marković, born in 1974, is a poet, playwright, scriptwriter and lecturer of script writing. She is one of the most interesting figures in the Serbian artistic community today. Her poems have been published around the world, and her plays are widely performed in theatre; her manuscripts attract attention with their originality. Marković’s play Tracks was performed at the Royal Court Theatre in London in 2002. The text was awarded various times, and was also published in the German theatre magazine Theater heute. Her most recent poetry was published in Sinn und Form magazine and Wasafiri magazine (London).

The Dragonslayers

Written by Milena Marković
Directed by Iva Milošević
With Jovana Gavrilović, Mirjana Karanović, Dubravka Kovjanić, Milan Marić, Nikola Rakočević, Srđan Timarov, Radovan Vujović

Set designer Gorčin Stojanović
Costume designer Maja Mirković
Composer and musician Vladimir Pejković
Choreographer Boris Čakširan

Premiere on the 7 June 2014
At the Yugoslav Drama Theatre, Belgrade, Serbia

Produced by the Yugoslav Drama Theatre, Belgrade, Serbia
In context of the TERRORisms Project of the
U.T.E.
Text is published as an E-Book by CulturBooks
Freely downloadable in Serbian and in English & German translation

Programme

On stage the 26 June 2015 20:00
At the TERRORisms Festival Stuttgart, Germany

Performance in Serbian with English subtitles

 

Published on 10 June 2015